{"id":1058,"date":"2024-11-26T17:01:53","date_gmt":"2024-11-26T17:01:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/?p=1058"},"modified":"2024-11-26T17:01:54","modified_gmt":"2024-11-26T17:01:54","slug":"ecrg-pedagogy-strand-professor-gert-biesta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/ecrg-pedagogy-strand-professor-gert-biesta\/","title":{"rendered":"ECRG Pedagogy Strand: Showcase &#8216;In conversation with Professor Gert Biesta&#8217;, 13 November 2024"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Once in a while, an opportunity presents itself to spend a few hours in the company of someone inspiring. For many in education and academia, Gert Biesta is one such individual. I\u2019m pretty sure he would fit Malcolm Gladwell\u2019s criteria for an \u2018Outlier\u2019, having definitely clocked up more than \u2018ten thousand hours\u2019 of practice in his specialist area, having authored and contributed to more than twenty books, edited multiple international journals, advised governments on education policy and held professorships at multiple universities around the world. But it isn\u2019t just these achievements which set him apart. For me and many others, it\u2019s the poignancy, challenge, clarity and hint of mischief in his ideas which make him a thought-leader in education, and someone worth listening to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, it was a great pleasure for the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uwe.ac.uk\/research\/centres-and-groups\/education-childhood-research\/research-themes#section-3\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.uwe.ac.uk\/research\/centres-and-groups\/education-childhood-research\/research-themes#section-3\">ECRG Pedagogy Strand<\/a> to host Gert for an \u2018in conversation with\u2026\u2019 event last Wednesday evening, to invite him to share his thoughts about the nature of teaching and to delve into these in conversation. Around one hundred teachers, school leaders and academics were treated to Gert\u2019s headline ideas and emergent thinking in a short presentation titled \u2018<em>What teaching is, what it is for, how it works and why it requires artistry<\/em>\u2019. This talk was based on a paper of the same title which he wrote in 2023. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"587\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/13\/2024\/11\/Gert-Biesta-2-1024x587.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1063\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/13\/2024\/11\/Gert-Biesta-2-1024x587.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/13\/2024\/11\/Gert-Biesta-2-300x172.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/13\/2024\/11\/Gert-Biesta-2-768x440.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/13\/2024\/11\/Gert-Biesta-2-1200x687.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/13\/2024\/11\/Gert-Biesta-2.jpg 1379w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The key takeaways from this were that, whether we like it or not, teaching operates in uncertainty. It is complex, subtle and nuanced. It requires judgement and intuition and its qualities (or it&#8217;s quality \u2013 whatever that is?) cannot be easily captured or measured using the logic of technical rationalism. This of course resonates closely with my own work and calls to mind that line from Hargreaves and Fullan (2012, p.107) that \u2018uncertainty is the parent of professionalism [\u2026]\u2019. Uncertainty is inescapably baked-into teaching.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">An idea hovering conspicuously throughout Gert\u2019s address, and our conversation, was that, despite its ubiquity in influencing policy, the explanatory and inquiry-based logic of the medical profession (which leads organisations to rank order interventions in terms of cost effectiveness), is not well suited to education. Gert took aim at this approach to judging teaching \u2018quality\u2019 because of its tendency to frame pupils similarly to patients, and \u2018teaching\u2019 somewhat like a cure. He talked a lot about the artistry of teaching and it is clear that art and artistry are important topics for Gert. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In our conversation, I invited him to put himself in the shoes of a headteacher whose pupils are soon to take exams, the outcomes of which will determine their next steps and for which he will be judged. I asked, \u201cDo you want artistry from your teachers, or outcomes?\u2019 and his response was short and unequivocal: Teaching requires artistry whatever the headteacher wants. That is the nature of teaching.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Read more about Gert\u2019s work and works on his website, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gertbiesta.com\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"www.gertbiesta.com\">gertbiesta.com<\/a>, and you may like to follow him on social media:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/GBiesta\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/x.com\/GBiesta\">X @GBiesta<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/authwall?trk=gf&amp;trkInfo=AQETpD9IJBbtugAAAZNpOoxoNrA79UpRdDb-pu3f1I9nRSukyaC6a8ixk4g08UWPEnIACfZvvmbbrfozWggI1NhdmWmdNTr0P-z6rmvcNjvrIopR9OaIy8v2jxtuiTT4ZdtSUuI=&amp;original_referer=&amp;sessionRedirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fgert-biesta-58637162\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/authwall?trk=gf&amp;trkInfo=AQETpD9IJBbtugAAAZNpOoxoNrA79UpRdDb-pu3f1I9nRSukyaC6a8ixk4g08UWPEnIACfZvvmbbrfozWggI1NhdmWmdNTr0P-z6rmvcNjvrIopR9OaIy8v2jxtuiTT4ZdtSUuI=&amp;original_referer=&amp;sessionRedirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fgert-biesta-58637162\">LinkedIn<\/a> <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Once in a while, an opportunity presents itself to spend a few hours in the company of someone inspiring. For many in education and academia, Gert Biesta is one such individual. I\u2019m pretty sure he would fit Malcolm Gladwell\u2019s criteria for an \u2018Outlier\u2019, having definitely clocked up more than \u2018ten thousand hours\u2019 of practice in &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/ecrg-pedagogy-strand-professor-gert-biesta\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;ECRG Pedagogy Strand: Showcase &#8216;In conversation with Professor Gert Biesta&#8217;, 13 November 2024&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":47,"featured_media":1062,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"wds_primary_category":216,"footnotes":""},"categories":[216],"tags":[271,211,259,242,212,262],"class_list":["post-1058","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pedagogy","tag-academia","tag-ecrg","tag-education","tag-pedagogy","tag-teaching","tag-uwe-bristol"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1058","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/47"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1058"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1058\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1074,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1058\/revisions\/1074"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1062"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1058"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1058"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs.uwe.ac.uk\/education\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1058"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}